So, now we have the audio of the event in question, and an accurate transcript, and it appears, to this someone, who’s seen her live before, that whatever long standing issues of she may have around gay people/rights, what she said, and how she said it in particular, do not jibe with the level of animosity ascribed to it.
“I was in a prayer meeting yesterday and you gotta appreciate how scared, how scared, folks on that side of the equation are. I mean, from their vantage point, and I really shouldn’t say ‘their,’ ‘cause it’s mine, too, we are nearly at the end of time”
Clearly, she is trying to describe how she feels like the religious people around her are feeling…I suspect that when she joins herself with ‘their vantage point’, her similarities of feelings aren’t 100% parallel, in every respect, and she didn’t expect people to think that she meant she agreed with everything in that mindset. Knowing how much she is aware of how different each individual is, especially inside the head, I just can’t imagine her actually believing that any group of people, no matter how superficially related they are, as a group, will not have strong differences on the specifics.
She continues on,
“from our vantage point, we’re gonna be, uh, I think maybe Chinese water torture is gonna be the means, the method, once Prop 8 gets instated and once preachers are held at gunpoint and forced to marry the homosexuals, I’m pretty sure that that will be the signal for Jesus to come on back.”
Again, it seems clear to me she is describing a hypothetical outlook on why things like gay marriage are so frightening to evangelicals, BECAUSE if gay people getting married isn’t the key that opens the door to the second coming, imagine how much worse what actually brings about the end times would be…from their vantage point.
The fact that biblically, gay marriage isn’t even close to a sign of the second coming is irrelevant to the fear some people feel.
Now the question of why an evangelical would be afraid of the second coming is an interesting one. Is it fear that you are a fraud, and not really saved? Is it fear that you have so many people you want to save, and think they are going to hell because you didn’t have enough time to convert them? Is it something else?
There have been groups of people, entire denominations of Christianity, that have been certain they lived in the end-of-days, since Jesus died. The arrogance it takes to think that your certainty means anything more to God, than the certainty of the millions…probably Billions, who have lived and died with the same strength of conviction, seems extremely un-Christian.
In me, such certainty evokes the same kind of pity I feel for people who tell me, “I have a feeling” about a lottery ticket purchase. It is a strange moment of self-centered-ness, in people that are often usually much better than that. But I totally understand it, emotionally.
Anywho, on to the ‘worst’ of it….
“If someone would be so gracious as to tweet out that Michelle Shocked just said from stage, ‘God hates faggots.’ Would you do it now?”
As written text, it looks pretty bad. But if you listen to the audio, she is obviously joking, giggling, and trying to recover from having the previous statement misunderstood, and didn’t in any way seem to actually mean she had just said that, but that having not gotten her point across that she was speaking about the “vantage point” she had observed at the prayer meeting, someone was going to misquote her, and she might as well get it out of the way now. Unfortunately, I don’t think people in the venue were listening to anything she actually said anymore, by then, and it spiraled down from there.
So, it would seem that what was said she said, some was not quite what she said, and what was said she said that was accurate, wasn’t re-said in context. However, having learned about a lot of other incidents, where she’s been equally troubling, the entire picture is not pretty. Having been to many of her shows, and witnessed her speaking style, and thinking on how similar it is, in many respects, to another artist I respect for their work. He is a visual artist, very altered takes on reality sort of paintings and sculptures. A friend once observed that while we may live in the same physical world as the artist, what he paints IS the world he sees. He doesn’t look at a straight line and imagine the curves he paints, they are always there. Those curves in the physical world, that he perceives but I don’t, he also perceives in the spiritual and emotional worlds, and I suspect Michelle lives in a similarly unique and distinct universe, parallel and enmeshed with ours, but seen through radically different eyes. The point being, it does not surprise me when either of them fail to get their point across….it amazes me that they ever do at all.
I don’t know how I feel about supporting her work in the future, knowing about some other incidents, but I feel reasonably certain that THIS incident doesn’t seem to be what I had initially feared, nor what was reported.